Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running
Hosted by Josh Rosenthal
A storytelling podcast exploring the culture, iconic races, and philosophical debates within the world of trail and ultra running.
This is a multi-format show that serves as a philosophical and cultural analysis of trail running. Episodes range from solo-hosted narrative essays dissecting the sport's soul (e.g., the 'Protect vs. Grow' debate between Western States and UTMB) to co-hosted deep dives on gear history and design convergence. It uses current events, race analysis, and product history as entry points to discuss the bigger 'why' of the sport.
“The show's defining feature is its focus on the philosophical layer of trail running, particularly the recurring theme of 'protecting the soul of the sport' versus commercial growth. This focus on cultural dialectics, rather than pure performance, sets it apart from many other running podcasts.”
Who hosts this show
Hosted by ultrarunner and Borderlands Media founder Josh Rosenthal, this podcast goes beyond race results to explore the sport's defining stories. The show features a mix of solo essays, gear analysis, and long-form conversations with legendary athletes like Scott Jurek and Laz Lake, race directors, and cultural commentators. Rosenthal launched the podcast in 2022 and uses it to investigate the people, ideas, and tensions shaping modern trail running.
Credentials & credits
- Founder of Borderlands Media
- Host of the Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running Podcast
- Ultrarunner since 2015
- Filmmaker (DFL BEFORE DNF)
- Former touring musician
Other ventures
- Borderlands Trail Running (media publication)
- Borderlands 8-bit trail running games
- Wylder app (trail running safety and community)
What kind of podcast
- Country
- United States
- Region
- usa
When new episodes drop
- 01Western States vs UTMB | Former ITRA President Weighs InJun 23, 2026 · 23 min
- 02Western States Wants to Protect, UTMB Wants to GrowJun 19, 2026 · 17 min
- 03He Ran The Bear 100 Right After Wasatch. He Still Wouldn't QuitJun 16, 2026 · 15 min
- 04
- 05Why Western States is America's Most Important Race | More than a RunJun 9, 2026 · 24 min
- 06The Secret Conflict In Every Ultra RaceJun 4, 2026 · 18 min
- 07What Happens When Running Becomes Your Job? | Jacob PuzeyMay 25, 2026 · 20 min
- 08The Race That Built Trail Running Is Being ForgottenMay 21, 2026 · 19 min
Notable episodes
- 01Western States Wants to Protect, UTMB Wants to Grow
Establishes the central philosophical conflict of growth vs. constraint that has become a recurring theme for the show.
- 02He Ran The Bear 100 Right After Wasatch. He Still Wouldn't Quit
A prime example of the show's interview style, using one athlete's incredible story to conduct a deep dive into the psychology of endurance.
- 03The Trail Running Shoe Sea of Sameness | Nike ACG, Nostalgia, and the Cost of Optimization
Showcases the co-hosted format and the podcast's ability to blend gear talk with cultural history and market analysis.
What you'll be asked on this show
In interviews, Rosenthal uses a guest's specific experience as a case study for a broader psychological or philosophical theme. He begins with logistical questions to establish context (e.g., training volume, timelines) before moving to deeper, more reflective probes about the guest's internal state ("When you're digging deep, what are you finding in yourself?"). He often mirrors a guest's own words back to them to encourage deeper reflection on their motivations and mindset, creating a narrative that is both personal and illustrative of a larger concept in ultrarunning.
The show's format is intentionally varied, including solo-narrated essays, conversational co-hosted discussions on gear and culture, and traditional guest interviews. Host Josh Rosenthal often frames episodes around a central, thought-provoking question, using it to explore broader themes. The production is clean and story-driven, reflecting the host's background as a storyteller.
Questions Josh Rosenthal keeps coming back to
12 cataloguedIf you're going on this show as a guest, expect some version of each of these. Each note explains when Josh Rosenthal reaches for it.
controversy
1- Q.01
“When something becomes successful, how do you protect it?”
This is a central framing question for the host's recurring analysis of the sport's growth.
personal
2- Q.01
“Why did you want it so bad?”
Asks this after a guest describes a moment of extreme commitment to get at their core motivation.
- Q.02
“What was it about [this specific product] that got your attention?”
A way to elicit a personal, visceral reaction to a piece of gear from a co-host or guest.
mindset
5- Q.01
“When you're digging deep, what are you finding in yourself?”
Used to probe a guest's internal resources and psychology during a moment of extreme suffering in a race.
- Q.02
“Is it easier to just accept that this is what you've got for the day?”
He asks this to explore the psychology of acceptance when a runner realizes they won't physically recover mid-race.
- Q.03
“Why do you think we're feeling this nostalgia right now?”
A question posed during gear discussions to analyze current market trends and consumer psychology.
- Q.04
“Was the previous race still weighing on your mind?”
Asks about an athlete's mental state at the start of a new challenge shortly after a previous one.
- Q.05
“Did you know there was no quit because you didn't give yourself that option?”
Reflects a guest's statement about their own resolve back to them to clarify its origin.
craft
1- Q.01
“Have products gotten better while all starting to look the same?”
An opening question used to frame discussions about gear design, nostalgia, and industry trends.
culture
2- Q.01
“What are we protecting?”
A foundational question the host returns to when discussing the 'soul of the sport'.
- Q.02
“How does culture survive?”
Follows discussions of what the sport's culture is, moving the conversation toward its transmission and future.
future
1- Q.01
“Do you have anything planned for this year?”
A standard closing question to ask guests about their upcoming races or projects.
Signature segments
- · Podcast Intro: 'The Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running Podcast'
- · The 'Protect vs. Grow' debate
- · Discussions on the 'soul of the sport'
- · Deep dives on vintage and modern running shoes
- · Analysis of trail running's counter-culture origins
Topics covered repeatedly
Who gets booked here
Guests are typically athletes with a compelling story of endurance that illustrates a psychological theme (like Michael Whiteside running two 100-milers back-to-back), or industry insiders and commentators who can speak to the sport's culture and history. Recurring co-host "Inky Steve" is a barber and runner from Manchester, UK, who provides an outsider's perspective on gear and trends.
- Michael Whitesideon He Ran The Bear 100 Right After Wasatch. He Still Wouldn't Quit
- Inky Steveon The Trail Running Shoe Sea of Sameness | Nike ACG, Nostalgia, and the Cost of Optimization
- Bob Crowley (op-ed author)on Western States vs UTMB | Former ITRA President Weighs In
- Jacob Puzeyon What Happens When Running Becomes Your Job? | Jacob Puzey
Where to find this show
Audience & reach
Sponsors include running-specific brands like Kiprun, Running Warehouse, and Evo. The host also regularly promotes his own ventures, Borderlands Media and its associated 8-bit trail running games, which are editorially aligned with the podcast's content.
Subscriber and view counts are pulled live from YouTube and re-verified on a 30-day cycle. Listener estimates for the RSS feed aren't published here unless they're host-verified.
Pitch Josh Rosenthal
People also ask
- What is the host's name?
- The host is Josh Rosenthal, an ultrarunner and the founder of Borderlands Media.
- Is the Borderlands podcast still running?
- Yes, the podcast is active and appears to release new episodes on a weekly basis.
- What is the show's format?
- The show uses a mixed format, including solo-narrated essays, co-hosted discussions on gear and culture, and long-form guest interviews.
- Who is this podcast for?
- It's for runners who are interested in the culture, history, and philosophical debates within trail and ultra running, not just performance tips.
- Where can I listen to the podcast?
- The podcast is available on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify.
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Sources & how this page was built
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- [01]About Josh Rosenthal | Borderlands Trail Runningborderlands.cc
- [02]Trail Running: Growth Through Challenges with Josh Rosenthalruntrimag.com
- [03]Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running - Apple Podcastspodcasts.apple.com
- [04]Josh Rosenthal's Race Results - UltraSignupultrasignup.com
- [05]Borderlands Trail and Ultra Running - YouTube Channelyoutube.com
- [06]theROCKER: the Most Misunderstood Trail Running Shoe [by Inky Steve]borderlands.cc
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