Beyond the Art
Conversations with Native American artists, curators, and leaders about their work, stories, and the systems that shape the Indigenous art world.
A mix of long-form interviews and narrative documentary episodes exploring the contemporary Native American art scene. The hosts engage guests in detailed conversations about their careers, creative processes, and philosophies. The show also produces reported pieces, like the one on Hickory Ground, that investigate complex issues of cultural preservation, law, and tribal sovereignty.
“The podcast stands out by combining deep-dive artist interviews with occasional, well-researched narrative documentaries on critical issues. Its focus is firmly on living, working artists and the contemporary systems they navigate, rather than on historical or purely academic subjects.”
Who hosts this show
Beyond the Art features interviews with change-makers in the Native American art world, from artists and influencers to museum directors. Hosted by Cray Bauxmont-Flynn and Joe Williams, the podcast explores guests' personal experiences, the tribal communities they serve, and the stories that carry them, examining why they have dedicated their lives to art. The show aims to amplify the perspectives of Native artists and cultural bearers on a global scale.
Credentials & credits
- Cray Bauxmont-Flynn: Enrolled tribal citizen of the Cherokee Nation and the Delaware Tribe of Indians.
- Cray Bauxmont-Flynn: Furniture designer and founder of Amatoya, a Native American design studio.
- Joe Williams: Dakota from the Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate.
- Joe Williams: MFA in Visual Effects from the Academy of Art University.
- Joe Williams: BA in American Indian Studies from the University of South Dakota.
- Joe Williams: Storyboard artist and former Director of Indigenous Programs at the Plains Art Museum.
Other ventures
- Cray Bauxmont-Flynn: Host of 'Beyond the Design' podcast.
- Cray Bauxmont-Flynn: Founder of the design studio and furniture collection, Amatoya.
- Joe Williams: Host of the '5 Plain Questions' podcast.
- Joe Williams: 2023 Bush Foundation Fellow.
- Joe Williams: Retired U.S. Army National Guard soldier.
What kind of podcast
- Country
- United States
- Region
- usa
When new episodes drop
- 01Petala Ironcloud on Indigenous Sovereignty, Media, and Art CriticismJun 25, 2026 · 49 min
- 02
- 03
- 04
- 05Native NowApr 23, 2026 · 57 min
- 06
- 07Walking with Intention: Indigenous Modern Life with Jamie GentryMar 26, 2026 · 41 min
- 08Beyond the Stage: Cary Morin on Songwriting, Storytelling, and Indigenous IdentityMar 12, 2026 · 54 min
Notable episodes
- 01Hickory Ground: Ancestral Desecration, Sovereign Shields, and the Fight for Muscogee Sacred Space
A powerful example of the show's narrative documentary format, this episode investigates the desecration of a sacred Muscogee site, detailing the legal and cultural battle for repatriation.
- 02Beyond the Lens: Cara Romero on Cultural Photography, Native Representation, and Visual Storytelling
A quintessential interview episode that showcases the hosts' deep research and conversational style, exploring a prominent artist's background, process, and philosophy.
- 03Petala Ironcloud on Indigenous Sovereignty, Media, and Art Criticism
This interview with a cultural critic highlights the show's focus on the systems of power and representation that influence how Indigenous art is seen and understood.
What you'll be asked on this show
The show is co-hosted by Cray Bauxmont-Flynn and Joe Williams, who take turns asking questions in a dynamic, conversational format. They begin by establishing a guest's origins and background before moving into their craft, philosophy, and the specific critiques their work addresses. The hosts demonstrate thorough research by referencing specific artworks or past statements, allowing for nuanced, in-depth responses. Questions often explore the tension between tradition and contemporary practice, the challenges of representation, and the intersection of art with activism and identity.
The show alternates between two primary formats: two-host interviews and single-host narrative documentaries. In interviews, hosts Cray Bauxmont-Flynn and Joe Williams are well-researched, creating a conversational flow where they build upon guest answers. Narrative episodes use a primary narrator with integrated clips from experts and community members to tell a focused story.
Questions the host keeps coming back to
12 cataloguedIf you're going on this show as a guest, expect some version of each of these. Each note explains when the host reaches for it.
origin
2- Q.01
“What was your experience growing up between different places, like a reservation and a city?”
This question is often used early on to establish a guest's personal background and explore themes of dual identity.
- Q.02
“How did you shift from a field like cultural anthropology to visual art?”
The hosts often ask about career transitions to pinpoint the defining moments in a guest's journey.
process
3- Q.01
“As a writer or artist, how do you decide which stories need to be told right now?”
This question probes the guest's creative priorities and sense of urgency or responsibility.
- Q.02
“How do you balance art and activism in your work?”
This is asked to understand how a guest navigates the political and social dimensions of their art.
- Q.03
“How do you choose the people you photograph or collaborate with?”
This question is used to understand the collaborative and relational aspects of the guest's creative process.
controversy
3- Q.01
“What does the mainstream media or art market consistently get wrong about Native art?”
This is a recurring question to elicit direct critiques of external representation and market forces.
- Q.02
“Who benefits from the idea that Native art must remain 'traditional' to be authentic?”
The hosts ask this to deconstruct and critique the power dynamics behind the concept of authenticity.
- Q.03
“What are the most harmful stereotypes you are trying to dismantle with your work?”
This prompts guests to identify the specific social critiques embedded in their art.
mindset
2- Q.01
“How does photography (or your medium) tell a truth that another field can't?”
This question invites the guest to articulate their medium's unique power and their artistic philosophy.
- Q.02
“What does 'Indigenizing' a colonial medium like photography mean to you?”
This question explores how artists reclaim and decolonize their tools and creative processes.
personal
2- Q.01
“As a Native artist, is there a different weight or expectation placed on your work?”
This question addresses the unique pressures and responsibilities that come with the artist's identity.
- Q.02
“Can you share the story behind one of your most personally meaningful works?”
Often asked later in the interview, this question seeks a specific, personal narrative behind a single piece.
Signature segments
- · This is Beyond the Art.
Topics covered repeatedly
Who gets booked here
Guests are prominent Native American artists, writers, curators, activists, and cultural leaders who are actively shaping their fields. The show books individuals like photographer Cara Romero, cultural critic Petala Ironcloud, and philanthropy leader Edgar Villanueva.
- Petala Ironcloudon Petala Ironcloud on Indigenous Sovereignty, Media, and Art Criticism
- Cara Romeroon Beyond the Lens: Cara Romero on Cultural Photography, Native Representation, and Visual Storytelling
- Edgar Villanuevaon Decolonizing Wealth: Edgar Villanueva on Philanthropy, Indigenous Wisdom, and Healing Capital
- Amanda Lett & Randee Spruceon Native Now
- Jamie Gentryon Walking with Intention: Indigenous Modern Life with Jamie Gentry
- Cary Morinon Beyond the Stage: Cary Morin on Songwriting, Storytelling, and Indigenous Identity
Where to find this show
Audience & reach
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People also ask
- Who are the hosts of Beyond the Art?
- The podcast is co-hosted by Cray Bauxmont-Flynn (Cherokee Nation/Delaware Tribe) and Joe Williams (Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate).
- What is the format of the podcast?
- The show primarily features long-form interviews with artists and cultural leaders, but also produces narrative documentary episodes on specific topics.
- Is the podcast still active?
- Yes, the podcast releases new episodes regularly, typically on Thursdays.
- Where can I listen to Beyond the Art?
- The podcast is available on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and other major podcast platforms.
- What kind of topics are discussed?
- Topics include contemporary Native art, cultural representation in media, decolonizing museums, the art market, and the intersection of art with activism and social justice.
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