Secondhand Therapy
Hosted by Secondhand Therapy
Two best friends use their own therapy sessions and personal struggles as the raw material for brutally honest public conversations on mental health.
This is a public therapy journal in podcast form, where two friends process their lives and mental health in real-time. Each week, Louie Paoletti and Michael Malone bring their latest therapy breakthroughs, personal anxieties, and relationship struggles to the mic, analyzing each other with a mix of raw candor and gallows humor. It's less of a structured mental health show and more of a live, unscripted workshop on healing and self-awareness.
“Unlike expert-led mental health podcasts, this show's authority comes from the hosts' willingness to be the patients, using their own lives as the primary text for every discussion. The dynamic is a blend of intense co-host chemistry and a peer-to-peer therapy session, making complex psychological concepts feel immediate and relatable.”
Who hosts this show
Hosted by friends Louie Paoletti and Michael Malone, Secondhand Therapy is a comedy-driven mental health podcast where the hosts unpack what they learn in their own therapy and apply it to real life. Each week, they have honest conversations about their anxiety, relationships, trauma, and personal growth with humor and vulnerability. The show is framed as a relatable resource for people interested in self-growth, with a frequent disclaimer that the hosts are not licensed therapists.
Credentials & credits
- Michael Malone: Author, 'Modern Love and Other Natural Disasters'
- Michael Malone: Writer and filmmaker
- Louie Paoletti: Co-founder of PonyBear Studios
Other ventures
- PonyBear Studios (Production Company)
- Secondhand Therapy Patreon
- Secondhand Therapy Merchandise
- Vasectomy Farms Merchandise
What kind of podcast
- Country
- United States
- Region
- usa
When new episodes drop
- 01Reporting Live: I'm Trapped | Episode 134 | Secondhand Therapy PodcastJun 22, 2026 · 1h 08m
- 02A F*ck Boy and a Vasectomy | Episode 051 Replay | Secondhand Therapy PodcastJun 15, 2026 · 1h 07m
- 03Intro to Trauma Zombies | Episode 133 | Secondhand Therapy PodcastJun 8, 2026 · 1h 00m
- 04
- 05
- 06Vulnerability or Die... Easy Choice | Episode 130 | Secondhand Therapy PodcastMay 18, 2026 · 58 min
- 07
- 08Picky in Love. Avoidant in Reality. | Episode 128 | Secondhand Therapy PodcastMay 4, 2026 · 1h 03m
Notable episodes
- 01Intro to Trauma Zombies | Episode 133
A powerful example of the show's raw vulnerability, where Michael has an emotional breakdown about his family grief and Louie shares a poignant quote from his therapist about buried trauma.
- 02The Crisis We're All Facing with Alexis Hill | Episode 132
A rare guest episode that showcases the hosts' political and social convictions, blending policy discussion with their signature focus on the mental health impact of high-stress work.
- 03Reporting Live: I'm Trapped | Episode 134
A classic episode that demonstrates the core format, as the hosts dissect their therapy homework, inherited parental traits, and the feeling of being emotionally detached.
What you'll be asked on this show
The show is not a typical interview format, as most episodes feature no guests. When a rare guest is featured (e.g., a political candidate), the interview is conversational and openly supportive, not neutral. The hosts share their own opinions and frustrations, creating a dynamic of alignment with the guest rather than acting as objective journalists. They blend policy-specific questions with personal inquiries about the emotional toll of the guest's work, reflecting the show's core focus on mental health.
The show is a two-man conversational format, with the hosts using their own recent life events and therapy sessions as the episode's agenda. They frequently interrupt each other with jokes or to challenge a premise, creating a dynamic that feels like eavesdropping on a private, intense conversation. While the vast majority of episodes are just the two of them, they occasionally host a guest whose work aligns with their personal values.
Questions Secondhand Therapy keeps coming back to
11 cataloguedIf you're going on this show as a guest, expect some version of each of these. Each note explains when Secondhand Therapy reaches for it.
process
3- Q.01
“What happened in your therapy this week?”
This is a common starting point, used to generate the core topic for the episode.
- Q.02
“What are you and your therapist doing to work on your need for validation?”
Asks for the specific therapeutic process being used to address a recurring issue discussed on the show.
- Q.03
“What does it mean to chip away at grief or deal with it?”
This seeks clarification on the abstract language often used in therapy to make it more concrete.
controversy
2- Q.01
“Are you able to face that you might just be a [fuck boy]?”
A direct, provocative question used to challenge a co-host's self-perception and the gap between his words and actions.
- Q.02
“Do you get more comments about your looks than your policies because you're a woman?”
A direct question to a female political candidate that addresses the potential role of sexism in her public life.
mindset
2- Q.01
“Why don't you respect yourself enough to listen to your own boundaries?”
This question probes the root cause of self-sabotaging behavior after a co-host admits to not following through on his intentions.
- Q.02
“If you could snap your fingers and change one thing, what would it be?”
A classic question used with a guest to cut through details and identify their single biggest priority.
personal
4- Q.01
“Are you afraid that relaxing your logical side will struggle with your identity?”
This question explores the fear behind letting go of a core, and often defensive, personality trait.
- Q.02
“Do you think it's that you don't want to be here without her, or you can't be here without her?”
A nuanced question asked during a discussion of grief, forcing a distinction between desire and perceived capability.
- Q.03
“What was your reaction like in the moment?”
Used to ground a therapy story in the immediate, visceral emotional response rather than the later analysis.
- Q.04
“How do you personally handle the weight of these heavy issues?”
This question, asked of a political guest, bridges the gap between policy and the personal mental health impact of her work.
Signature segments
- · Opening with 'Hello my little bear cubs'
- · Disclaimer that they are not licensed therapists
- · Closing with 'Okay, love you, bye'
- · Promoting their Patreon for ad-free episodes and bonus content
- · One host analyzing the other's behavior like an impromptu therapist
Topics covered repeatedly
Who gets booked here
Guests are rare and appear to be chosen based on personal alignment with the hosts' values, rather than for celebrity or broad expertise. The one observed guest was a progressive political candidate the hosts personally endorsed and wanted to support.
- Alexis Hillon The Crisis We're All Facing with Alexis Hill | Episode 132
Where to find this show
Audience & reach
The show is heavily sponsored by mental health service BetterHelp, alongside a psychic hotline and an online university. The hosts also consistently promote their own Patreon for ad-free episodes, multiple merchandise lines, and Michael Malone's book.
Subscriber and view counts are pulled live from YouTube and re-verified on a 30-day cycle. Listener estimates for the RSS feed aren't published here unless they're host-verified.
Pitch Secondhand Therapy
People also ask
- Who are the hosts of Secondhand Therapy?
- The podcast is hosted by two best friends, Louie Paoletti and Michael Malone.
- Is this a real therapy podcast?
- No. It's a podcast *about* the hosts' therapy experiences. They include a disclaimer that they are not licensed therapists and are not providing professional advice.
- What is the format of the show?
- It is a conversational show where the two co-hosts use their own lives and therapy sessions as the primary topic. It is not typically an interview show.
- How often do new episodes come out?
- New episodes are released weekly.
- Where can I listen to Secondhand Therapy?
- The podcast is available on YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and other major podcast platforms.
- Who is Michael Malone?
- Besides co-hosting the podcast, Michael Malone is a writer, filmmaker, and the author of the book 'Modern Love and Other Natural Disasters'.
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Sources & how this page was built
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- [01]Official Website - Aboutsecondhandtherapypod.com
- [02]PonyBear Studiosponybearstudios.com
- [03]Apple Podcasts Pagepodcasts.apple.com
- [04]Podnews Pagepodnews.net
- [05]Google Books: 'Modern Love and Other Natural Disasters'books.google.com
- [06]Author Interview with Michael Malonehjbookblog.wordpress.com
- [07]Amplify Upworthy: Podcaster uses genius 'weightlifting' analogy to help friend grieveupworthy.com
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